In this interview, Jane Firth, Head of Responsible Investment, Border to Coast Pensions Partnership, discusses the critical role of engagement in responsible investing. Firth provides insights into the challenges and strategies for aligning asset managers with asset owners, addressing issues such as ESG backlash, misalignment on climate-related voting, and the importance of voting and engagement in influencing companies. She highlights the significance of transparency, policy development, and collaboration among stakeholders, including companies and asset managers. Firth's experience and expertise shed light on the tools and approaches used to drive positive change in the world of responsible investment.